Grace Evangelical Society

P.O. Box 1308, Denton, TX 76202
  • About
    • Home
    • Beliefs
    • Staff
    • Board of Directors
  • Resources
    • Grace in Focus Blog
    • Grace in Focus International Blogs
    • Grace in Focus Radio
    • Grace in Focus Magazine
    • Free eBooks
    • Journal of the GES
    • Book Reviews
    • Partners in Grace Newsletter
    • Audio Messages
    • Videos
    • Email Subscription
    • Online Tracts
  • Store
    • Main Page
    • On Sale
    • Return Policy
    • Your Cart
    • Your Account
  • Events
  • Seminary
    • Seminary Info
    • GES Seminary Curriculum
    • GES Seminary Faculty
  • Connect
    • Contact Us
    • Free Grace Church and Bible Study Tracker
    • Free Grace Jobs
    • Ministry Links
  • Donate
    • One Time Donation
    • Monthly Donation
    • Your Account
  • Search
Home
→
Blog
→
Does 1 John 1:9 Disprove Once Saved Always Saved? 

Does 1 John 1:9 Disprove Once Saved Always Saved? 

May 30, 2024 by Bob Wilkin in Blog - 1 John 1:9, OSAS

A group of pastors and Bible scholars put out a documentary film that seeks to disprove Once Saved, Always Saved (OSAS). In one part of the video, Drs. Michael Brown and David Bercot, along with Pastors Joe Schimmel and Zac Poonen, say that 1 John 1:9 proves that OSAS is false. See here from 56:12 to 57:19.

They fail to explain why being out of fellowship with God means that one has lost his salvation. Their reasoning, though unstated, seems to be this:

Major Premise: Only people in fellowship with God are saved.

Minor Premise: 1 John 1:9 says that if a believer fails to confess his sins, he’s out of fellowship with God.

Conclusion: 1 John 1:9 teaches that salvation is lost every time a believer fails to confess his sins.

But read 1 John 1:9 again. It doesn’t say anything about regeneration, salvation, justification, or eternal condemnation.

The issues in 1 John 1:9 are forgiveness and cleansing. Those are fellowship issues, not eternal destiny issues.

However, Pastor Joe Schimmel contradicts his colleagues, possibly because he realizes how harsh this sounds. One unconfessed sin, and a person loses his salvation? Not according to Pastor Schimmel. He said this:

“You must continue to confess your sins. Now if we die and there’s one sin unconfessed, well, guess what? We’re branches in the vine. Falling short of the Lord’s glory doesn’t sever us from the vine. It’s apostasy that severs us from the vine. That’s a continual rebellion against God” (see 57:19 to 57:37).

Schimmel says that one unconfessed sin won’t sever you from the vine. What, then, does 1 John 1:9 mean? And why did the other scholars and pastors say that 1 John 1:9 disproves OSAS?

Schimmel is wrong that apostasy causes loss of salvation. And his definition of apostasy is wrong. He said, “Apostasy…is a continual rebellion against God.” No. Apostasy is a falling away from faith. One need not rebel against God continually for a long time. Apostasy occurs the moment one ceases to believe a fundamental truth of Scripture.

All the Lord’s “never” promises in John’s Gospel and the rest of Scripture show that even continual rebellion against God cannot separate a believer from God’s life in him. The believer will never perish (John 3:16), never thirst (John 4:10-14; 6:35), never hunger (John 6:35), never be cast out (John 6:37), and never die spiritually (John 11:26a).

Conclusion: 1 John 1:9 does not contradict OSAS. Nor does 2 Pet 1:9 (cleansing of past sins) or Jas 5:19-20 (turning a believer who has strayed back to the Lord to save him from physical death). It is a terrible mistake to confuse forgiveness and eternal security.

Of course, some–or even all–of these men may have believed the promise of everlasting life in the past. If so, they remain saved even though today they no longer believe that John 3:16 is true. OSAS is good news. Don’t you agree?

Keep grace in focus!

Subscribe by Email

  • Facebook
  • X
  • Pinterest
  • LinkedIn
Bob_W

by Bob Wilkin

Bob Wilkin (ThM, PhD, Dallas Theological Seminary) is the Founder and Executive Director of Grace Evangelical Society and co-host of Grace in Focus Radio. He lives in Highland Village, TX with his wife, Sharon. His latest books are Faith Alone in One Hundred Verses and Turn and Live: The Power of Repentance.

If you wish to ask a question about a given blog, email us your question at ges@faithalone.org.

Recently Added

December 4, 2025

What Is Eschatological Salvation, and Do You Have It? 

I don’t remember hearing the expression eschatological salvation when I was studying at Dallas Theological Seminary. But over the past thirty years or so I’ve noticed that expression occurring increasingly in the commentary literature. Some pastors are...
December 4, 2025

What Is Annihilationism and What Is Universalism?

Welcome to the Grace in Focus podcast. Today, Bob Wilkin and Philippe Sterling will continue the topic of Eschatology. More specifically, this episode focuses on...
December 3, 2025

Disunity: Not a Minor Problem 

Israel was at war. The Midianites and their allies had severely afflicted the nation for seven years (Judg 6:1). However, God raised up Gideon to defeat those enemies...

Grace in Focus Radio

All Episodes

Listen on Apple Podcasts

Listen on Spotify

Listen on YouTube

Grace In Focus Magazine

Grace In Focus is sent to subscribers in the United States free of charge.

Subscribe for Free

The primary source of Grace Evangelical Society's funding is through charitable contributions. GES uses all contributions and proceeds from the sales of our resources to further the gospel of grace in the United States and abroad.

Donate

Grace Evangelical Society

(940) 270-8827 / ges@faithalone.org

4851 S I-35E Suite 203, Corinth, TX 76210
P.O. Box 1308, Denton, TX 76202

  • Facebook
  • Twitter
  • YouTube
  • Instagram