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ANNOUNCER: Why is the saving message almost completely absent in the Synoptic Gospels? This is an important question; we’re glad you joined us today. We’re going to talk about it right here on Grace in Focus. This is the ministry of the Grace Evangelical Society. You can find out more about us at our website, faithalone.org. Don’t forget to get the information you need to get signed up, registered for our national annual conference coming up May 18th through the 21st. We’d love to have you with us. It’s at a great setting, Camp Copass in Denton, Texas. Family friendly, our topic this year is “Believe in Christ for Life,” and we’ll also talk about discipleship. Get what you need to get signed up at faithalone.org. 

And now with today’s question and answer discussion, here is Bob Wilkin along with Sam Marr. 

SAM: Here we go Bob. We’ve got a lot of very short questions from Hayden, so we’re going to see how many we can get through. 

BOB: He’s over in Australia, right? 

SAM: Yeah, he’s upside down. 

BOB: He is upside down? Yeah, yeah, that’s right. It’s probably the heat of the summer. I’ve been watching the Australian open and it was a hundred the other day Fahrenheit.

SAM: That’s crazy. Yeah, Hayden’s first question is, it’s really good. It’s an important question that I know you and Ken have talked about, but I think it’s important to revisit. His question is why is the explicit saving message absent from the Synoptic Gospels? So why, you know, we have it in the Gospel of John. He states very clearly many times. It’s believe in Jesus Christ for everlasting life. You know, we have John 3:16, 5:24, 11:27, and then the purpose statement in 20:31. But why do we not get statements like that in Matthew, Mark, and Luke? 

BOB: Okay, very good. Well, I might refer to a talk that Bob Bryant gave at our annual conference somewhere around 10 or 15 years ago. And he talked about this very subject and he said that when he was at Dallas Seminary, and I think Bob graduated in 75, he talked to Zane Hodges about this. Zane was Bob Bryant’s mentor like he was mine. And Zane told him that there were no references to the saving message in Matthew, Mark, or Luke, the Synoptic Gospels. And I like the way that Hayden puts it. No explicit references to the saving message. 

And Bob Bryant talked about this and basically he showed a lot of verses in the Synoptics that people would point to. And what you find is they’re pointing to discipleship verses like “Deny yourself, take up your cross and follow Me,” in Matthew 16. That’s 24 and then 25, 26. Talk about, you know, if you save your life, you’re going to lose it. If you lose your life for My sake, you’ll find it. And what will a man give in exchange for a soul? What would he profit if he gained the whole world in exchange for a soul? Actually, that should be life in both places. But still, he pointed out that verses like that are not evangelistic verses. Those are discipleship verses. 

And so one of the reasons there aren’t explicit statements of evangelism in Matthew, Mark, and Luke is their purpose is not evangelistic, their purpose is discipleship. And as discipleship books, there’s really no need for them to include references to the saving message. 

Now, I would say that you do get implicit references, like for example, in Luke 8:11-15, you get the interpretation of the parable of four soils. And verse 12 says Satan snatches away the seed on the first soil, lest they should believe and be saved. Now, although not all the details are there, clearly it’s saying if you believe this saving message, then you’re saved. And saved once and for all, that’s why Satan snatching it away. Now, it doesn’t say that the message is believing in Jesus for the gift of eternal life. But it’s implicit. And then you get the second soil who believe for a time and in time of temptation fell away, which is suggesting that, okay, this person is born again, eternally secure, but the believer may fall away. And we have a couple of verses in the Synoptics that you could say implicitly point us to the faith message, but they don’t lay it out, like you say, like any of the verses in John’s Gospel. 

And possibly another reason is this, I believe the Lord wanted us to go to the Gospel of John to find our view of the message of eternal life. He didn’t want us going hither and yon all over the Bible. And so I believe he gave us the gospel of John with a clear purpose statement that it’s evangelistic John 20:30-31. And with repeated references to the one who believes in Jesus has everlasting life, will never hunger, will never thirst, will never die, will never be cast out, but is secure forever in the hands of Jesus and in the hands of the Father. And I believe it pushes us there. Now, we could ask the same question about the epistles. 

SAM: That’s what I was going to bring up is, we know from pretty much all the epistles, most of them have some kind of purpose statement, but they’re all written to churches or believers and it’s made clear in those letters. So it just wasn’t the purpose and most of the letters don’t really have any explicit or I don’t think any of them have any explicit here is the saving message that is laid out in John. 

BOB: Well, it’s interesting you’re close in Ephesians 2:8-9, but it’s interesting, it doesn’t mention the name of Jesus: “For by grace you’ve been saved through faith and that not of yourselves. It’s the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast.” Now, we know that “saved” there refers to everlasting life because of verse 5 where he says, “He made us alive; by grace you have been saved.” But not everybody gets that when they read Ephesians or hear Ephesians 2:8. So you don’t even always grasp the fact that this salvation is secure and cannot be lost, whereas you do get that in the Gospel of John. 

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BOB: We do have like Titus 3:5. He didn’t save us by any works of righteousness we’ve done. We’ve got references like James 1:8. He brought us forth by the Word of Truth. But that doesn’t specifically tell us what the Word of Truth is. So even in the epistles for the most part, we don’t get a real strong statement. 

I think one of the best we get is 1 Timothy 1:16, where Paul says,”I’m an example of those who are going to believe on Jesus for everlasting life.” He’s got believing in or on Jesus for everlasting life. That’s probably one of the clearest. But there aren’t too many of those in the epistles and and think of epistles that you couldn’t be born again from the epistle. 2 John, there’s not anything in there or 3 John that’s going to tell you how to be born again. Nothing there. Even Jude, although he talks about our common salvation, he doesn’t say anything about how a person is born again. And so you couldn’t be born again from that. 

So I would say Hayden, great question. But the reason we don’t find it in the Synoptics is because the Synoptics are not focusing on the saving message. It’s the same reason why there’s so much missing from the Gospel of John. Do you know there’s not a parable anywhere in the Gospel of John? And almost all of the major details of the life of Jesus found in Matthew, Mark, and Luke aren’t found in the Gospel of John. The Gospel of John is very selective. And it’s pointing us to the saving message. Well, I think you said we had more than one question from Hayden. 

SAM: Yeah, we’ve got a fun one that we can do to wrap up. He’s got a question about the Catholic Church. So if Luther was successful in reforming the Catholic Church, and then he says, and they became focused free grace, but I’m not convinced that Luther was focused free grace. But let’s say we had one central Christian church like the Catholic Church, but they were solid in their theology. Would that be a good thing?

BOB: Yeah, that’s a great question Hayden. I tell you what I like about it. It touches on both the saving message and church government. It’s one thing to have the saving message right. So I would be delighted if the Catholic Church was proclaiming faith alone in Christ alone. If it was proclaiming that everyone who believes in the Lord Jesus Christ has everlasting life and will never perish. But if the Roman Catholic Church was imposing a hierarchical structure on local churches so that local churches were not independent, but local churches had to answer to a bishop and then an archbishop and then a cardinal, and then ultimately to the college of cardinals and ultimately to the pope, that structure would be very unhealthy. 

Think of Grace Evangelical Society. We are not a church and our aim is not to be a church. But what if we were? What if we were a denomination and we had everybody looking to us and somehow we had this hierarchical structure, that would be unhealthy. Then you would have, okay, whenever I step down and somebody else succeeds me, then you’re going to be wondering, well, did we read the smoke right and did the popes get it right? I mean, the cardinals get it right when selected the new leader. 

No, I don’t want to be the head of an organization that is a church. I want to be the head of a parachurch organization that helps local churches to proclaim not only the saving message, but the entire council of God clearly. And let me say, GES is starting to get into the business of planting churches. We want to see home churches planted all over the world. Dix Winston and Geoff Stevens are having some success already and we’re seeing some being planted in various places. I think Hayden is planting a local church where he is in Australia. All that is great, but they’re going to be independent. 

So even if the Roman Catholic Church was absolutely clear on the focused free grace position, which I would rejoice in, I wouldn’t rejoice in that kind of structure. 

SAM: Right, because it’s unbiblical putting that much pressure on one person for the pope. He can’t be wrong. He’s essentially the messenger for God to God’s people. That’s way more pressure than was ever intended to be put on a human because at the end of the day, everybody could be wrong. You or Ken or me or anybody can be wrong. So everybody should be searching the Scriptures for themselves. And if the pope said that, if the pope said, you know, here’s what I think, but go read your Bible for yourselves, then I think he’d be doing a great job. But in my experience, that’s not how the Catholic Church operates. They do the hard work for the people, so they don’t need to search the Scriptures, and they don’t need to verify what the pope or what the cardinals say. And that’s not biblical. 

BOB: Yeah, that’s well said. Well, thank you, Hayden, for those two questions. I think we may in the next episode, take a few more Hayden questions. By the way, if you send in questions, follow Hayden’s example. Keep them short. They’re more likely to get answered if they’re short. And in the meantime, Sam, let’s keep grace in focus. Amen.

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