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And now with today’s discussion from 1 Peter 4, here is Bob Wilkin, along with David Renfro. 

BOB: David, we’ve come to 1st Peter, chapter 4, verses 1 through 11. And this breaks into two parts. The first six verses, 4:1-6, and then 4:7 through 11. And in 4:1-6, it’s a very powerful section. What is this section talking about? 

DAVID: It really talks about how a believer should live securely because of the promise of this future glory, that if we suffer like the Lord did, if we suffer for doing the right thing, instead of the wrong thing, that there’s a promise ahead of us. 

BOB: And I think Hodges calls this “through service.” In other words, we’re gaining this salvation of our psuche through service. 

DAVID: We serve the Lord in spite of our suffering, even in a lot of active persecution, we still obey the Lord. 

BOB: Right, so he says here, “Therefore, since Christ suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourself with the same mind,” the same mind meaning we too are going to suffer. 

DAVID: Right, the more we obey the Lord, the more I think we’re going to suffer, because the world around us does not like that. 

BOB: And then he says, “for he who has suffered in the flesh has ceased from sin, that he no longer should live for the rest of his time in the flesh, for the lusts of men,” or the desires of men, “but for the will of God.” So in other words, if I’m suffering for Christ, it’s because I’m walking in the light. 

DAVID: If you’re suffering because of your obedience to the Lord, then that is going to be rewarded. And I think that’s what he says here essentially, you’ve got two choices in life. You know, live your time in this flesh, in this mortal life, either obeying the Lord and possibly suffering for it, or live like the world and have a great old time here, but it goes away. 

BOB: Which is where he’s going. And by the way, wasn’t that Bob Dylan, says you got to serve somebody? You’re going to serve the devil, but you’re going to serve somebody.

DAVID: Yeah, you’re not in control either way. 

BOB: And notice verse three, “For we have spent enough of our past lifetime in doing the will of the Gentiles.” I thought that’s funny. Instead of talking about the will of God, we’re talking about the will of the Gentiles, and by Gentiles there, he doesn’t mean specifically non-Jews, he means unbelievers. 

DAVID: He means people that are anti-the God of the Bible, yeah. 

BOB: And then he says, “when we walked in lewdness, lust, drunkenness, revelries, drinking parties, and abominable idolatries.” I guess Peter must have known about the fraternities. Maybe they had fraternities in the first century. 

DAVID: Oh, I think in college, you don’t need to be in the fraternity to experience those things. 

BOB: I was at the University of California at Irvine, and I remember I got there, and I came out of a very legalistic works salvation, and sinless perfection, cult. And so I didn’t drink and I didn’t do drugs. And right away, my freshman dorm, they’re smoking marijuana right and left. My roommate had 10 people in the room every night, and they’d be smoking marijuana until like 10. And then when I would kick them out to go to bed, they’d go upstairs and do LSD. And so,

DAVID: Weed was not enough for them. 

BOB: So then I moved into with a person who didn’t smoke marijuana, and he just drank. And then the next year, I moved in with a Roman Catholic who didn’t drink or do marijuana, so that was nice. But I remember my freshman year, these people would have keggers, you know, they’d go in, and they’d have these drinking games. And I remember feeling sorry for them because the next morning, they would be moaning and groaning, and they would be puking, and they would just be out of it. And I was like, how do they think, and of course, I grew up in an alcoholic family, so there was no appeal to that to me. Sure, yeah. 

But in any regard, he says, we’re not to be that way following the will of unbelievers. And notice he says, “In regard to these, they think it’s strange that you do not run with them in the same flood of dissipation. Speaking evil of you. 

DAVID: I thought that was interesting phrase, they speak evil of you doing good.

BOB: Because you’re not participating in their drinking games, their immorality, their other things. And that, by the way, is part of suffering for Jesus, right? 

DAVID: Exactly, yeah, that’s why society, part of society will reject you. Right, because you’re not going along with the stuff that verse three, you know, in other words, I summarized all those, the lewdness, lust, drunkenness, all that stuff as self gratification. And notice it says, when you walked in lewdness, I’ve always taken the word walk as referring to your lifestyle. So I think what verse three is saying is, don’t live your life, obsessed with self gratification, but— 

BOB: But in gratifying the Lord Jesus Christ.

DAVID: Exactly. And that’s the choice that all of us believers have. 

BOB: Well, notice, verse five, “they will give an account.” Giving an account refers to accountability, right? That’s where we the word accountability. 

DAVID: What, who are we accounting that to?

BOB: Notice what it says, “to Him who is ready to judge the living and the dead.” 

DAVID: Oh, Him. 

BOB: Now, that occurs in a lot of verses. I think you jot it down what some of those verses are, but it’s common all the way through the New Testament. 

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BOB: What are some of the other verses that talk about the fact that Jesus is going to judge the living and the dead? 

DAVID: Well, we have Romans 14:9. And then Acts 17:31. 

BOB: Right when Paul’s talking to the Athenian philosophers. 

DAVID: Right. And then 2 Timothy 4:1. Remember 2 Timothy is Paul’s swan song. So this is an important concept even to Timothy. And then the last one that we listed here was Acts 10:42. 

BOB: And all of these are talking about the fact that He’s going to judge those who are living and dead. And this would encompass both the judgment of unbelievers and the judgment of believers. The judgment of unbelievers at the Great White Throne Judgment, Revelation 20:11-15, which we’re told they were each judged according to their works that were found in the books, the books of works. And then we also know that before the Millennium, believers will be judged at the Judgment Seat of Christ. Of course, in the preceding verses he’s talking about the Gentiles who are involved in all these lewdness. So he’s probably thinking primarily of unbelievers here. 

DAVID: And probably when you’re talking that in the Roman Empire, you’re talking about pagans. 

BOB: And thinking then primarily of the Great White Throne Judgment, but what he says in verse five, also applies to believers, we will give an account. Now of course the “they” here would refer to these Gentiles, but the “we” would also be true. We’re going to give an account. In fact, those other verses are open ended. They’re believers and unbelievers. 

And notice what he says: “For this reason, the gospel was preached to those who are dead.” It’s interesting. This isn’t saying Jesus went to those who are in Hades. 

DAVID: In a holding tank. 

BOB: This is talking about those who are spiritually dead. In verse five, it’s talking about those who are physically dead. But verse six is talking about those who are spiritually dead. Hodges bring this out in his commentary. “That they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in the spirit.” In other words, the good news is preached to those who are spiritually dead with the ultimate goal that they would live for God. Gaining everlasting life isn’t the end. It’s the beginning. Now what do we do with the life that we have? Are we living it in a way that glorifies God? 

DAVIID: The way I’ve summarized these first verses is, we are to endure suffering because Christ has assured our ultimate victory. I mean, that’s what this is saying. Make a choice, choose to do the right thing. And if you suffer for it, that adds to the glory. If we suffer the way Jesus suffered. 

BOB: Yeah, but how did you put it again? 

DAVIID: We are to endure suffering because Christ has assured our ultimate victory.

BOB: Our ultimate victory refers to overcomers, because if I’m not an overcomer, I’m not going to have the ultimate victory. I will, of course, get into the kingdom. I will have joy forever. I will have life forever. But the abundance of life and ruling with Christ, those things are reserved for those who suffer with Him. 

DAVIID: Right. It’s an exhortation to endure suffering. Those who do will receive that ultimate victory. 

BOB: Yeah, in fact, 4:13, which we’ll get to in the next time, talks about the fact that how much we share in His glory depends on how much we suffer with Him in this life. But let’s go through 7 through 11. And these verses are talking about suffering, right? That we’re now back on the salvation of our psuche through the suffering, and in light of the fact that we’re in the last days, by the way. 

DAVIID: Right. He actually mentions that in verse seven, “the end of all things is at hand.” In other words, things that we know. And he says, “be serious” or be alert, “and watchful in your prayers. Above all things,” verse eight, “have fervent love.” And this is a strong Greek expression here. Fervent, love deeply, one another. And then he quotes Proverbs 10:12 saying, “love will cover a multitude of sins.” 

BOB: Right. Which you get also in James 5:20. 

DAVIID: Exactly. It’s interesting now he’s saying, because the end of time is near, we are yet again, supposed to be kind to one another. Look at verse nine, “Be hospitable to one another without grumbling.” And the same thing in verse 10, “As each one has received a gift, minister.” In other words, we all have spiritual gifts. 1 Corinthians tells us that. And then it says minister or serve one another. That’s why we’re here is to serve one another. We’re not supposed to lord over one another. We are to serve with our spiritual gifts. 

BOB: And then 11 looks at those who have the gift of teaching. Or even if they don’t have the gift of teaching, we’re to speak the words of God. 

DAVIID: “If anyone speaks, let them speak the oracles of God.” In other words, kind of like what Paul told Timothy. Preach the word. 

BOB: Okay, [unintelligible]. And “if anyone ministers let him do it with the ability which God supplies, that in all things, God may be glorified.” 

DAVIID: Right. Our ultimate goal is to glorify God. 

BOB: And if we do glorify God, then we’re going to have a greater share of His glory in the life to come. And that’s where we’re going in the rest of this. Well, thanks so much, David. And thank you all. And remember, let’s keep grace in focus. 

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